Welcome to the DAA

Welcome to the Devon Angling Association website.

Covid19 – We have now left level 0 on Monday 9th August 2021 and there are no restrictions on angling. Enjoy! 

The Association offer fishing on approximately 15 miles of the River Devon in Clackmannanshire and Kinrossshire; from below Castlehill Reservoir in Glendevon to  Menstrie .

The river provides good opportunities to catch migratory Salmon and Sea Trout, particularly in the later part of the season and the river holds excellent hard fighting native Brown Trout all to the stunning backdrop of the Ochils.

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Additionally the Association is able to offer members and visitors bank fishing on Glenquey Reservoir in the heart of the Ochils.

The website is intended to provide information & news for members of the Association, provide a guide for visitors to the Devon & Glenquey and hopefully be of interest to all.

All Salmon caught on the River Devon must be returned to the river without exception. 

For the latest news of the Association , River Devon & Glenquey plus other related snippets please see the DAA News & Blog tab.

598 Responses to Welcome to the DAA

  1. Christopher Ward says:

    thanks for the tips

  2. Christopher Ward says:

    Anyone in need of advice on how to blank up the quay give me a shout, 5 hours again today and no luck. Few fish rising and a cracking day . Guy had one on a cormorant .

    • gowens2013 says:

      Just blame and appreciate the sun ….. a blank on a day like today beats work 🙂

    • Cailean Moore says:

      With little fly life yet, attractor patterns fished along the bottom work best for me. Same on the river. This time last year on Glenquey I was catching using a Partridge and Orange with a Orange tungsten bead. I had 5 on the Devon last week with a Orange hotspot pheasant tail jig. So basically anything with a hotspot like an Orange bead or at the thorax should catch. Same jig was also catching for me on the River Carron yesterday.

      • Christopher Ward says:

        Hi , i was using an olive damsel with a red bead on an intermediate for a while but i got fed up pulling weed of the fly , maybe i need to be more patient with that

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Both the Partridge and Orange for Glenquey and the Orange hotspot jig for the Devon were a size 16. Couldn’t get a take on anything larger. On the Quey, it was a clear intermediate line. On the Devon it was a long French leader.
        All the best for the season ahead.

  3. onroutes says:

    Up the quey today. Cought 2. Got 1 on a PTN on the north bank about a 1lb and one on the south bank around a 1lb too… on a fly that is a salmon fly… there was 5 out fishing today. Think 3 of the other anglers cought a fish each. . Good day. Seen a buzzerd flying about. Too early for the osprey is it not.

  4. Kenny says:

    On the devon today , nill loads of flys no rise.

    • Cailean Moore says:

      Had 5 yesterday on French nymphs on the Devon. Hatch was midday until 2pm and was brief, just like the fishing.
      Only other angler I saw was a bait angler with a bubble float. Water is very cold and a quick sample of the river showed that most nymphs were immature in their early instars. Due to the mild Winter I predict 0bumper fly hatches this year.
      Tight lines to everyone for the forthcoming season.

      • graham says:

        Cailean …… I so hope you are right about bumper hatches!

        That said, despite the glorious weather this afternoon I only spotted three olives on the upper river; one was snapped up by a decent trout who refused to consider taking any of my offerings

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Fish are still very much on the bottom my friend and it was tungsten bead nymphs I was using. Orange hotspot pheasant tail was the nymph of the day.
        Cracking to hear that you saw a large trout rising and wets the appetite for the bigger hatches in May. River is looking well and I reckon that once the water temperature rises, we’ll see some good hatches this year.
        Tight lines and if you see me on the river, come over and say hello.

  5. Stirling 84 says:

    is river devon fly fishing only? i live in stirling and im not one for fly fishing would like to use worms or maggots but seams to limited choice in rivers for this sort of fishing. thanks

  6. onroutes says:

    SW/ W wind tomorrow. That makes it blowing towards the dam wall, more towards the water outlet corner so should be fine fishing the south bank (boathouse) side. Ive managed to get a few days off work so I’ll be heading up.. whats your fly choice going to be? Was thinking buzzers.

    • Christopher Ward says:

      Hi, was up the Quey yesterday for 5 hours and didnt get a pull, tried nymphs, trad wets on sink tip and buzzers drifting on a floating line. Chap next to me was the same then he put on a intermediatte with a Damsel , he let it go down a bit then very slow retrieve. He started getting hits and landed a very nice brownie, which he safely returned. Looked about a 1lb or over. tight Lines

      • Cailean Moore says:

        I was the same last year until I tied on a wee grayling fly that I use on the Clyde which is basically a Partridge and Orange with a orange tungsten bead. I had 14 trout on it. I think that due to the lack of fly life until the main hatches in May, an attractor patterns fished deep is the best bet.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        How strict is the no Sunday fishing rule for Brown trout on the river? Many are like me and work all week and this can involve a Saturday too. This means that fishing time is severely limited. Isn’t it time to lift this archaic rule?

      • Graham says:


        As a wage slave myself I am very sympathetic, and be assured the subject has been debated just in the last year by the committee. I appreciate it may seem archaic and relate to another century, but there are a number of genuine obstacles that make Sunday fishing very problematic. I will raise your point with the committee at the next meeting.

        Cheers, Graham

  7. Kenny Macaulay says:

    Hi graham , can you put this up on the web sit . Handy to see river levels.

  8. Stephen says:

    I recently moved to Menstrie and am going to teach my son (9 this summer) how to fly fish. going to get a our permits for the season once I’m home from work in a few weeks. Was just wondering if anyone could give us a few nice wee spots to try as I dont know the Devon at all. Looking forward to some summer nights father son time on the river and hopefully even catch a wee tommy troot! Tight lines and thanks for any help Stevie.

    • Graham says:

      Welcome Stevie ……. I would suggest anywhere between Dollar and Tillicoultry. You can access the river from at numerous locations from the path along the old railway and there is parking in the towns, Taits Tomb (the prominent lay-by) and the Haugh (the surfaced road on the south of the A91 about half mile from Dollar). Lots of different river conditions, space to cast and generally plenty of trout about.

    • Kenny Macaulay says:

      Menstrie burn at the Scout hall . Has wee burn trout .

  9. onroutes says:

    I’ve got a question I’d like to clear up. If you look at the quey on on a map it shows the dam pointing north east… the boat house side the east bank, the bottom of the quey the south and the other side the west….. i always called the opposite side from the boathouse the south and the boathouse side the north

    • Graham says:

      I see where you are coming from as Glenquey is orientated from south-west to north-east. By convention the south bank has always been taken as being the ‘popular side’ on the car park side of the dam (boathouse side) and the north bank being the right hand bank if you looked up the reservoir from the dam wall.

  10. Axil 1994 says:

    Well we are nearly at that time off year again starting to get excited now!!

    With my mind now basically fully focused on the new season, I brought back a memory off last season ” where are all the salmon parr? ” I remember telling fellow anglers on the river just 3 seasons ago, that further down river you were catching 3 salmon parr to 1 trout……… ( not sure if it was just coincidence )

    But the past 2 seasons personaly I feel there has definitely been a sharp decrease in the number off salmon parr……..has anyone else noticed this?

    Tight lines for the new season hopefully see you on the river on the quey!!

    • Graham says:

      A very good question which has been exercising the committee and which we have referred to the RFFT biologists. There are probably a number of factors at play including poor runs of Salmon due to consecutive dry autumns, damaging spates at key times around redding/spawning, difficult trout fishing conditions in the first half of the season (I was barely troubled by parr until probably August) etc. Reassuringly despite another poor salmon fishing season, the RFFT biologist was of the opinion that the main river had the a very good concentration of redds. We are going to be monitoring this more closely during the new season. I will be posting shortly a request for observations on parr and smolt catches with some information on the identification of trout parr, salmon parr and salmon smolts.

      • Bud1994 says:

        Hopefully nothing to serious, very few and far between all off a sudden!!

        Less than a week to go now, am getting excited!!

      • Kenny Macaulay says:

        Hi no salmon parr last year even in the burns .? Lot of trout parr in the river .

  11. onroutes says:

    Looking forward to the new season. I normally dont start going up the quey until may/ june but think I’ll be giving it a go early this time. How does it fish early on? I need to hit the river more too this time. I’ll pick up my permit over the weekend…. 😆😆🐟🐟

    • Cailean Moore says:

      Last season the river was slow to start fishing and didn’t hit a peak until the end of May. In contrast the loch fished very well from opening day. I’ll be spending a few weeks up the loch first this year before heading back to my usual haunts on the river.
      If the association needs help at anytime with a work party, please let me know. I’m a self employed plumber and have a full kit of tools and plant so anytime lads. 😊

    • Andrew Acheson says:

      Hi onroutes, I’ve found that the Quey fishes really well from the beginning of the season. I’ve booked the 15/03 off work to fish the Quey on opening day this season. I tend to start with a midge tip type line or slow intermediate with a size 14 Kate McLaren on a dropper and a size 14 Black Pennell or Mallard & Claret as the tail fly. Regards, Andrew

      • Cailean Moore says:

        See you up there Andrew. We’re also heading up on opening day. Tight lines.

      • Graham says:

        Well done Andrew; I used to take a days holiday on the opening day of the season …… till I think the 2011 season when I headed to the river with a horrendously stiff cold wind blowing. Thinking of shelter I found myself downstream of Rumbling Bridge where I almost immediately spied a (very wee) rising fish. I managed four casts without spooking it, took a step forward, slipped on a boulder and took my first dip of 2011. By the time I got back to the car I was wishing I was at work (but that may also the first symptoms of hypothermia setting in) 🙂

      • onroutes says:

        Cheers for the advice Andrew. I’ll probably not get up until the 18th, unless i get rained off work on the opening day, then i will be up then. Ive probably met yous all at some point over the last 3-4 years at the quey….. or on the river. Everyone is friendly and helpful on approach.

    • Graham says:

      The boys were up at Glenquey in the second week of February doing some work on the north bank with the Ochils splattered with a wee bit of snow …….. as cold as it was and despite being barely 2017 they spied a number of fish rising so you never know if you get the tactics right from the opening day you may just get lucky!

      • onroutes says:

        All the work the boys done last season too didn’t go unnoticed graham. The south bank was a lot better for walking along and fishing. Well played.

  12. Kenny says:

    Why not have an twice a year.

  13. Stewart says:

    Hello, can you tell me who I contact to become a member of Devon Angling Association, or does this happen when you buy a season permit?

    I have never fished on the Devon and was looking for any advice or to meet up with like minded people when the season starts.


    • Graham says:

      Welcome Stewart

      Membership of the DAA comes with the purchase of an annual permit for one of local outlets which are listed here:


      This will entitle you to fish for Brown Trout on the Devon and get discounted tickets for Glenquey Reservoir

      If you wish to fish for Salmon and Sea Trout as well you need to contact the Honorary Secretary (details on the same page). All permit prices remain unchanged for the 2017 season.

      The best introduction to the Devon is park either side of Dollar where access to the river is relatively straightforward. There are a few spots which will get busy on summer Saturdays (particularly the easily accessed parts of the river such as Tait’s Tomb) but a short walk and you will probably find you have the river to yourself. There are some relatively remote bits of the river which require a decent hike and a huge range of waters (from slow moving meanders, rocky gorges, riffles etc) Fishes well generally from late April onwards and is great fly water (dry, nymphing or traditional flies) …….. personally I would never go down to the river without iron blue dun or greenwells glory patterns in the box but no one is the same.

  14. Axil 1994 says:

    Evening all, is there still a good run off salmon? Thinking taken my young niece to either cambus or dollar weir for some viewing!

    Also how was everyone’s season on the river or glenquey?

    • gowens2013 says:

      I am pretty sure not many fish will have moved into the river in the last four weeks; I was down at Cambus this morning and there wasn’t a hint of a fish even the four Goosanders looked bored! The best time to see fish on either weir has probably passed, though if we get a spate next week when the low pressure systems move in it may be worth a wee peak (particularly if coincides with a decent high tide).

      As for my season on the river, the first two thirds was absolutely rubbish but the from probably mid August to the end of the season was excellent 🙂

    • James Tate says:

      Two salmon spotted today in the Devon adjacent to Tillicoultry sewage works.

  15. Alan Graham says:

    Just had a reasonable session at The Quey. Cold wind not a lot showing but there was an Olive Hatch around 12.30/ 2.00pm. Ended on 6 – (4and 1/2 Lb) in total. Best probably 1lb. One on a Black Spider with red thorax. The remainder on CdC Yellow Owl.

  16. Alan Graham says:

    Can I take this opportunity to remind everyone that under the Scottish Goverments Wild Fishers review the River Devon has been classified a Grade 3 River and that ALL salmon MUST be RELEASED. Unlike the one Killed by Xxx Xxxxxx from Tillycoultry.

    • Cailean Moore says:

      Well try telling the neds that are chapping everything they catch from wee half pound trout to 8lb salmon, not the decent anglers like myself and friends who are aware of the law and buy a season permit.
      My friend approached one of these neds and was told to **** off about catch and telease. With our vehicles sitting in a layby and available as targets for these wasters, it’s not down to us to police the river. If you want to see a picture of a salmon killed by one of these neds, email me and I’ll send it. The river has been getting hammered all season and not one of us has ever been asked to show our permits. They were up a few weeks ago lined along the bank using beachcasters and fishing prawns as bait.

      • SoftHackles says:

        That is terrible and very sad to hear when you consider the overall conduct and character of the vast majority of anglers that we all meet, and indeed especially sad, when you consider all the hard work that is done by the association and its members on the river and up at Glenquey.
        Thank you Alan for highlighting the Grade 3 status of the Devon and the responsibilities of anglers under the Scottish Government’s Wild Fishers legislation. Most reputable anglers will be aware of these responsibilities I would imagine. I doubt that those fishing with beachcasters and prawns, mentioned in Cailean’s post above, will be much enlightened however, as they surely are unlikely to visit the association’s website, much less this page.
        As Cailean’s post also says the response when approaching such illegal activity is often aggressive. I suppose it is a silly question but can the police do nothing to help if not the river bailiffs themselves?

      • Alan Graham says:

        It is the responsibility of ever member of the Association to police the river when out fishing on it. As a member you are entitled to ask everyone you meet to produce there membership card or ticket.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        As a season ticket holder and very experienced angler, I go fishing to take in the wildlife, the ambience and of course the fishing. I’m not going to be accosted by a group of neds who couldn’t care a toss about the river or the fish within it and furthermore have my vehicle targeted by them either.
        It’s the responsibility of whoever was given the job of being a bailiff to police the water or whoever was elected at an AGM to do so, not the responsibility of permit holders. Myself and my friends have approached these idiots and others and been given abuse in return. Neither myself or my friends have ever been asked to show OUR permits. Meanwhile the river gets hammered by the neds. Think carefully before passing the buck on who is responsible for policing the river. None of us will be asking for permits again.

      • Graham Halliday says:

        Every member has the right to ask for a ticket to be shown – correct. However, in our modern world, too many rude individuals think they can do what they like and WON’T be challenged or reasoned with. I too have been told to ‘f’ off by illegal fishers and feared for my car if I took out my phone. The police would NOT respond in any sort of haste to reported “fish stealing”.

      • Alan Graham says:

        Then I would point out that ALL members of the work party and our volunteer baall over 70 years of age and it would be nice to get some YOUNG blood on board. How about it.

      • Simon says:

        I’ve offered my services before but no one ever came back to me.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        I’m a former fishery manager for UCAPA on the River Clyde and I’ve already offered my services and also offered to become a river warden to keep official tags on the neds up there. The offer still stands and as the Devon is my favourite small river, I’ll gladly help in whatever way I can. Email me please.

      • Graham says:


        No point falling out over this, we all recognise there is (and frankly always has been) a problem with a few individuals who will not invest a modest amount of money for a permit, despite the permit prices being of exceptionally good value (a whole season of trout angling for a mere £17). I think we also recognise that some of this small minority can be very anti-social in their attitudes and personally I don’t appreciate being told to #+*$ off by anyone. The officers and the members of the Association should be collectively working to make sure anyone fishing on our waters has paid their fair share.

        Alan’s point about work parties is a fair comment, the majority of the participants are retired and go out on the river on Wednesday’s which is an obvious problem for those of us that work. If there is a groundswell of support I am happy to promote via the committee weekend work parties.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        As I said above, I have offered my services before and will assist in any weekend work parties that I’m needed for.
        In the meantime, please consider my proposal to put towards your committee of appointing volunteer river wardens, which myself and friends will help with. A heavy official presence on the river especially at the Tates Tomb stretch will kick these neds off the river.
        I don’t think anyone is falling out over this issue, but we care about the river to want to protect it. I for one have witnessed the demise of other rivers due to inaction against the neds and poachers. Let’s do something about it gents and not just accept that it goes on.

      • leven015 says:

        Whilst I don’t fish the river as often as I would like, I have on occasion encountered these obnoxious people who have NO respect for, not just fish, but the environment as a whole. However, and it may have something to do with my size (6′ 4″ & 17 stone), they tend not to tell me to go away, choosing the safer alternative of leaving the water. Unfortunately though, as I have said, I am not yet of an age where I can fish as much as I would like and I feel sure that those that I encounter are brazen enough to return.
        It is also unfortunate that authorities do not respond as quick as they should, or as they probably do on some of our larger rivers.
        I do still do believe that we all have a responsibility to continue to challenge these individuals, and I for one will do so.

      • I am one of the Devon bailiffs would you phone me on 01259751120 any time you see these neds

      • Cailean Moore says:

        I will happily phone the number as will my friends who are also decent anglers, but will not become a target for these idiots.
        Ok you are both volunteers and that’s to be commended but there’s not enough of you to regularly patrol the river. I have 3 volunteers including myself that will help if asked to do so. Same goes for work party’s. I’m not some daft kid either. I’m 51 years old and have a wealth of angling and fishery management experience. The trout season is now over for us and we’re leaving the trout in peace to spawn.
        The photo of the dead salmon can he sent to the association for investigation if required but not much can be done about it now. We bring these matters to the attention of the Devon management because we care about the river. On too many rivers it’s the neds that win.

      • Graham says:

        Great discussion here guys. Let’s all remember that we ALL want the same thing – to pay our permits and enjoy our river, fair and square. We all have work commitments or other commitments and some can spare more time and muscle than others. If any one feels that they can do either a bit of good or a lot of good then great. Let’s list all the emergency numbers from the constable to the Forth boys to the bailiffs and approach the neds legally on the bank, then those who don’t feel intimidated – make those calls. Phone the bailiffs, the Forth boys and the police. Let’s actually see the response to the riverbanks. No disrespect to any of the office bearers or bailiffs who maybe can’t respond in that moment – volunteers remember who patrol and would respond if they are free or somewhere else on the river. Walk away, make the calls and await the results. DON’T aggravate a ned – it’s what they live for – just get them legally busted !!
        Let’s not forget that ALL rivers and lochs are poached – many just as blatantly – and many members feel just as powerless elsewhere. I was a member in a prestige fly angling club for many years and the place was poached rotten – and boasted about in the local……until a local bobby became a member…… There’s no overnight fix.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Very well said.
        I would like to see a few signs on the river saying that the Devon is a category 3 river and it’s illegal to kill ANY salmon and have a phone number on the sign to report poachers. A first deterrent but it shows that we’re serious about protecting the river. Even laminated computer print outs would suffice for now. I look forward to the AGM and will help in any way I can.

      • Cailean,come to the next AGM and volunteer as a bailiff. Note we do not get paid . I am on the river 4 or5 times a week but cannot be everywhere most times dog walking. It is always so annoying to hear these stories and I fail to understand why people with permits do not phone someone when they see something suspicious.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        I’ll be at the AGM and put my services forward for anything that will help the river.
        As to phoning someone, may I suggest that a few cheap signs are posted up at Tates Tomb detailing category 3 and it’s a criminal offence to kill any salmon and alsoalwhete permits can be purchased. T

      • Alan Graham says:

        Cailean. Any proposal’s that you wish to put forward at the AGM must be put in writing to the Secretary at least 2 weeks before the date of the meeting which is the 11th January 2107. The venue being the Royal Hotel Tillicoultry. The Secretary’s ARE ON YOUR MEMBERSHIP CARD.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Cheers. I’ll be there and offer any help that’s required.

      • If you or anyone else saw people lining the banks and using prawns why oh why did you or them not phone the association asap?

      • Cailean Moore says:

        As explained elsewhere, my car sits in the car park and I’m not going to be a target for these nutters. My friend approached them and got dogs abuse. The problem is not me or the other good anglers who buy a permit and adhere to the rules, but the neds who don’t and the lack of policing on the river that goues on up there. Clearly there are not enough bailiffs to patrol the river. I have been asked once for my permit and that was another member in the car park. No one else I know has ever been approached either.
        I have photos of the killed salmon I posted about earlier and also my offer and my friends offers of help and still have had no contact. Stop greeting at me and making an issue on the website, please. People like me want to help and the offer remains.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        I’d also like to add that I receive regular reports of what goes on in rivers right across Scotland, not just the Devon on my Facebook group and we’ve acted on a number of incidents.
        If you want a copy of the killed salmon forwarded to you, then as stated earlier email me and it will be sent to you.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Finally, a email about this incident was sent to the association, so please do not accuse me of any inaction over it. The chap who contacted me about both incidents also passed the info to the association. It’s like pass the buck here instead of doing something about it.

      • Graham says:

        Before this gets out of hand, for the avoidance of any doubt I can confirm that the DAA were notified by email on the morning of Sunday 18th September. The informant on request sent a pictures/information of the incident which was immediately acted upon by both the Hon Secretary and Alan Armstrong.

        It is worth reiterating the appreciation of the DAA for to Micheal, Cailean and other members that reported this incident and other problems on the river through the season. The Forth District Salmon Board have a limited resource of warrented bailiffs to cover one of the largest board areas in the ccountry, so the DAA are very much reliant on self policing of our own waters. If we do encounter illegal fishing please contact our bailffs, the Crown Bailiffs and/or Police Scotland

        See https://devonanglingassociation.org.uk/2016/09/19/salmon-compulsory-catch-and-release/

        Last but very much not least, we very much appreciate the offers of assistance, which will be taken up

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Thank you.

    • Kenny says:

      Need to post at cambus . Lot people think you can kill fish at cambus.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        Need these comments made into signs and posted everywhere on the river so that they can’t use the excuse of not knowing that it’s illegal to kill salmon.

  17. Kenny says:

    Down at cambus today , fish there not getting ne’er the falls. Because of the seals .

    • Cailean Moore says:

      I have a friend who is a respected angler who approached 2 who had caught and killed a Salmon at Tates Tomb beat. Asked if they knew the law about catch and release they just didn’t give a toss. Needing policed up there. Too many killing everything they catch and none of these neds have permits.

  18. Kenny says:

    4 nice salmon parr down the black devon ,today .

    • Cailean Moore says:

      Good to see migratory fish in the river. Most of the bigger resident Browns have moved out from their Summer lies and are migrating downstream to the spawning burns leaving the wee kamikaze fish to annoy the hell out of my nymphs! LOL
      Haven’t seen any sea trout this season.

      • Christopher Ward says:

        Hi was wondering if anyone has advice re what flies to use at the quay at the moment, going up sunday and still learning the trade, cheers

  19. Kenny says:

    Down the river at rackmill , seen some foks electric fishing . Above the falls lost a nice brown trout on a pink dry fly. 18.08.16

    • Colin Moore says:

      Sadly the river at my favourite stretch at Tates Tomb and going downstream is getting hammered right now. My friend saw 5 of them lined along the bank fishing maggots using beachcasters and they had killed undersized half pound trout. Not one had a permit. He met another 3 who were maggot drowners again fishing without permits and killing everything. I came across another 2 who scarpered when they seen me and left a tub of prawns behind. I haven’t been asked for my permit all year, neither has anyone else I know. If the DAA are struggling to cover the water, then make anglers like us and others who care about the river, the position of river wardens and chase these scumbags off the water. Not happy at all.

      • Graham says:


        The DAA have two river bailiffs, Jim and Alan (who I am sure many will have encountered on the river) but they are volunteers and can only cover so much of the river. Jim and Alan are also part of the small gang of volunteers that are out on the river or up at Glenquey virtually every week of the year cutting paths, building stiles/bridges, clearing spawning burns, clearing fallen lumber etc.

        Taits Tomb is and will always be a problem to police because of it’s ease of access …….. but the DAA do their best with the limited resources available. Members have their part to play too!


      • Why did your friend not phone any official from the association numbers on the permit.?

      • Cailean Moore says:

        He approached them and got dogs abuse. They had undersized fish on the bank. Shouldn’t need to phone anyone if it’s regularly patrolled. If it’s a difficult task then enroll more bailiffs. We go fishing to catch fish and not become targets for idiots.

    • Gordon says:

      Was this official testing of stock, or what?

      • Graham says:


        It will almost certainly be the River Forth Fisheries Trust doing a routine survey of the River and key spawning burns


      • Kenny says:

        They were looking for parr, as for fish poaching on the devon needs more baliffes. The hole devon as the same . Just take the rods of them Hand them in the police station.

  20. Axil 1994 says:

    Has anyone been up glenquey recently? Have spoke to a few anglers and they have said its been virtually inaccessible due to high water levels!!

  21. Axil 1994 says:

    Don’t know if this will be any good but…….. I was out fishing tonight up the fossoway run, parked the car at the usuall spot just at the entrance to the salmon hatchery, come across 3 sheep that have escaped a nearby field, they are very close to the main road with nothing to stop them, could be an accident waiting to happen appeared to be 1 adult and 2 young yins, if anyone knows who the sheep belong too and could pass the message on that would be great……… Maybe they believe the grass is greener on the other side as they seemed to be enjoying their new grub!!

    Also beware when turning into the entrance to the salmon hatchery, it looks like a window has been smashed right in the middle off the road!!

  22. Rob says:

    Please notify me, where are the fish stalked into the water? Permit has been £17 season and quite dissapointing, i have fished it hard for 2 weeks on the trot only producing 2 small trout, also whats the numbers of sea trout and salmon caught? I am not willing to purchase permit for that unless i know more info about it

    • Graham says:

      Rob, the DAA currently stock the river twice a year at a number of locations with triploid (sterile) brown trout and the 2016 stocking is complete. While word may get out about the stocking we do not publicise when or where stocked fish go into the river to give them a chance to acclimatise and spread out. The DAA try to put them in areas with the highest fishing pressure.

      The 2016 season so far has been tough, with low water for much of the season to date, but the fish are there and can be caught (see post ‘July brownies’)

      As for the migratory fish, well that is almost entirely in the hands of the weather. If we have a wet September and October 50+ Salmon may be caught but if we a dry autumn like 2015 barely a fish will be caught. The river needs a good few spates to encourage the fish over the weir at Cambus and into the Devon.

    • Cailean Moore says:

      There are plenty of good sized fish in the river, in fact every pool holds at least one large fish much bigger than the others. With low water, I either fish a parachute emerger during a hatch or a nymph before it and never go above a size 16. It’s just a case of adapting to the conditions and keeping low and out of sight. For nymphing, I use a long French nymph leader and two small nymphs 50cm apart and this catches the big bottom dwellers.
      As for the permit price, £17 is a bargain. I pay £55 for the Clyde and same again for the Carron. I’m not interested in stockies, there is a good head of wild trout in the river. Glenbervie or Swanswater caters for stockies, and I prefer fishing rivers catch and release for wild fish.

      • Graham halliday says:

        Yes, there are big trout in the Devon. I have caught and seen caught fish over two pounds. Low water conditions make it very difficult as the angler is too easily seen by the fish and the bigger older fish have of course grown bigger by avoiding fishermen the longest ! I think that the bait anglers of the past had an advantage by standing still in a hidden spot and not having to constantly wave a rod about.

    • Kenny says:

      What were you using fly bait spinner, and just wondering.

      • Cailean Moore says:

        I only fly fish, mainly Czech and French Nymphing using small nymphs size 16 -20 on jig hooks. For top of the water I prefer small parachute emergers.
        Great wee river and good to fish. For the size of it, this wee river holds some big trout.

  23. Axil 1994 says:

    Anyone on here know how to get permission/permit ( if any ) for fishing the Devon above castlehill upto lower glendevon reservoir?

    Any help appreciated!

    • Graham says:

      I know a couple of years back, Glendevon Country Park (the chalet park near Glendevon Kirk) were offering day permits either side of the Kirk.

      • Axil 1994 says:

        Ahh I’ll mabye try them, I passed it yesterday and it got me thinking every time I pass I never seen anyone fishing, might be worth a try!!

        Am guessing the angling association has had no luck in getting the lease for fishing up there?

      • graham says:

        I have fished the Glendevon stretch above and below the lodge park. It is very misleading – there are many small but deep pools and runs and there are plenty of fish ! 6 foot fly rod and number 4 line with 4lb fluorocarbon tip – great sport. It is much better than it looks from the road. Now the lodge park has it signed as theirs I stopped fishing. I believe permits are available. There are otters there too, upstream from the park. I have watched them twice and they came as close as the width of the river – until they saw me hiding in the long grass !

    • Axil 1994 says:

      Very nice graham, can I ask how far above and how far bellow the lodge park you can go?

      Not really wanting to jump into a farmers field when/if their not wanting anybody there!

      Much appreciated.

  24. onroutes says:

    Was up at the quey at the weekend (both days) and on Saturday saw the osprey fishing…… what a site. I was on the south bank and it came down like a bullet straight across from me on the north side and went straight into the water at some speed….then up with a fish…….

    • Axil 1994 says:

      Fantastic memory for you Onroutes!!

      The osprey is fantastic to see even when it’s not fishing, but when they are it is truly mesmerising! Beautiful, elegant bird!!

      How did you get on with the fishing? (If you don’t mind me asking)

      Kind regards.

      • onroutes says:

        I was up on the monday and never managed to catch any. There was plenty rising too. Went back up on the following Saturday (same day as the osprey) and i managed to get 3. One was about 1lb, one at 3/4lb and the first one was just tiddler. All returned. Then it was back to normal for me on the Sunday… didn’t manage to catch any. I got my river permit last weekend so I’ll be giving that a go soon too…

      • Axil 1994 says:

        Very good! Not been to the quey in a few weeks!

        The river is eventually picking up, it’s been a horrible start to the season!

  25. onroutes says:

    Hi guys. Just wondering whats been working well up the Quay this month. Ive got a months holiday coming up in between the new job starting so I’ll be heading up there as much as i can. Looking forward to it. I took a run up last weekend (not fishing) just to see how the water looked and it was looking really good. Any tips welcome…. 🙂 I’ll probably get ma usual river permit too when im up. Hows the river fishing aswel, it will be quite low id imagine.

  26. Axil 1994 says:

    Good morning folks, has anyone had any luck with the fly on the river this year, seems to be only just a few fish caught on the worm, it’s been very very quiet considering the amount off hatches and fly life on the water!

  27. Axil 1994 says:

    Is it just me that thinks the quey fishes better when the water is low?

    • Andrew Acheson says:

      Hi Axil,

      I agree but I think it’s due to much more water being made accessible when the water is low.

      I found that last season’s high water meant that the north shore was limited to angling opportunities and the fish became very wary on the south shore.

      On my last trip of the 2015 season on the “quey” the water had been lowered and I landed close to 40 fish with 20 or so in the 1lb – 1.5lb range. All were caught working wet flies along the north shore and the overflow corner of the dam.



      • Axil 1994 says:

        Definitely helps for access aswell, I was up 2 weeks ago and it was like near perfect level, plenty off bank to fish off was up on Wednesday and was restricted to some parts off the reservoir!

        As for the fishing whatever the water level it’s been tremendous on the quey river is still quiet I’ve had all my fish off the top on a balloon caddis fly!! Biggest about 1lb!

        Kind regards

  28. Alan Graham says:

    Up at the Quey to-day. When I arrived Ian and Donald had already started and could not decide which fish to cast to first. Yes it was that good a rise to midge’s. Then the west wind got up and the temperature dropped – so did the fish. However a change to a midge tip line coupled to size 16 Black Spiders (midge) brought results. When I left around 3 there were still 6 rods on the water. So it was a busy day.

  29. Alan Graham says:

    Had a very good session on the Quey to-day. Ended the session with 11 to hand and touched a few more. The fish were not all that deep and several could be seen “nymphing” to something small and black. All my fish came to size 14 Diawl Bach.

  30. Alan Graham says:

    Well the AGM is only a week away – 12th Jan – lets see a good turn out at the Royal in Tillycoultry

  31. Kenny says:

    Graham is there a raffle at the agm, if so i have fly box and a magazine abit about the devon from 2007, in put in.

    • Graham says:

      Kenny, thanks ever so much for your kind offer but unfortunately the decision was made last year to knock the raffle in the head (due to a combination of electronic returns and not enough trout tickets being returned). I have a copy (somewhere) of the article you mention which I think was in Fly Fishing & Fly Tying; I must try to find it and upload onto the website.

      Can anyone save me the trouble of scouring the cupboards and provide me with a scan of the article [send to thedaa@talktalk.net ]?

      Cheers and Seasons Greetings

  32. Kenny says:

    Best at night with a torch.
    http://www.tidetimes.org.uk kincardine

  33. Axil 1994 says:

    Good afternoon folks! Can anyone recommend the best time of day to go watch the salmon at cambus?

  34. Jack says:

    Hi there, could anyone on the forum please recommend a #3/4 rod preferably for dry fly fishing, but in general the length of rod to fish the devon and glenquey. Thank you.

    • Graham says:

      Jack, I am no “gear” expert (getting utterly confused by all the rod related jargon) and do most of my fishing on the river.

      For trout fishing on the Devon (for most of the season I rely predominately on dry fly fishing) I have, for the last six years or so, relied on a cheap 8′ 4# rod (actually a Greys G-series 8′ 4#) and the excellent range of wildfisher fly lines (marketed by Fred Carrie who runs the brilliant Wild Fishing Forum see http://flylines.org/site/ ). My choice was driven by the simple experience of breaking more expensive rods while taking tumbles accessing some of the Devon’s more esoteric beats …….. but after six years it is still in one piece and is ideal for virtually all conditions and locations on the Devon.

      As for Glenquey 9′ #5 suits me!

      It would be interesting to hear other anglers regular choices for gear?

    • Kenny says:

      Hi mate , i use a sonk 3# 7/6 rod. dry fly expert line ,

      • Graham Halliday says:

        I have downsized and for several years now I have used a Snowbee 6’3″ rod with a #4 floating line. Great for getting a cast into the overhung,unreachable pools and easier for walking along the banks. Very light and takes a wee bit of getting used to, but great fun with a 1lb brownie on !

  35. Kenny says:

    Who is responsible for the banks of the devon .
    there’s abit on the devon that makes March glen flood .
    this bit all so stops the salmon getting past .
    not going to say over aopen form .needs sorted very soon bit is getting wores all the time.

    • Graham says:


      Ta and thanks for your discretion

      Responsibility for the prevention of flooding rest principally with the Clackmannanshire Council (to quote SEPA “It is the responsibility of your local authority to implement and maintain flood protection measures, clear and repair watercourses to reduce flood risk and gully maintenance for local roads which describes gutter areas and drain covers” – http://www.sepa.org.uk/environment/water/flooding/responsibilities-for-flooding/ explains further the hierarchy of responsibility).

      Where practical our DAA work parties endeavour to clear as much debris from the river as they can manage to allow free passage of fish (and minimise flooding and damage to the banks). Clackmannanshire Council will turn out to deal with more serious issue, particularly where there is risk to property and persons. We have also been fortunate to have received assistance for neighbouring landowners in pulling some of the trees that have ended up in the river.

      Drop us a wee note at thedaa@talktalk.net and I am sure it will be checked out!

    • Kenny says:

      Get some photos , not safe at the moment jew to weather .bring it up at the agm.

  36. Kenny says:

    Need more bailiffs.
    There was a lot of sea trout up the black devon ,only seen on salmon. This year

  37. Frank mckeown says:

    Same old guy bait fishing fishing up from Marshall ‘s bridge , sits there year after year . Told me yesterday that he hooked 2 salmon this week but they got off , makes me wonder what they are swallowing and if they would survive after? Went to 3 different spots to find a bailiff but was unsuccessful? ??

    • Alan Armstrong says:

      Frank and anyone else.

      If you see anyone fishing out of season please phone me on 01259 751120

      As an unpaid part time bailiff I cannot be out all the time but I am on the river somewhere five out of seven days walking my dog. All members are entitled to challenge anyone but at this time of year it matters not about a permit so either phone me or any committee member.

      Thanks Alan.

  38. Frank mckeown says:

    Came across two different sets of people bait fishing on either side of the bridge at Marshall,’s , managed to get them to move on with the threat that the baliff was on his way. Judging by the fire pits at he big bend I suspect there is a bit of night fishing going on.

    • Graham says:

      Thanks Frank that’s much appreciated, I will pass on your observations to the DAA bailiffs and the Secretary so that the area gets some more scrutiny.

  39. Axil 1994 says:

    Good morning, What date does the brown trout season end this year? Can’t see it on my permit or on this!

  40. Kenny says:

    Vicars bridge loads of rubbish, found id in one of the jackets.

  41. Alan Graham says:

    How come in our blog section we get adverts from M&S !!!!!!!

    • Graham says:

      Adverts may appear on the website. They are placed independently by WordPress who host the site and are the price of WordPress hosting the DAA website for free.

  42. Alan Graham says:

    To-morrow is the last day of the Season at Glenquey – so lets see some rods out there.

  43. Frank mckeown says:

    As noticed by one other member the gathering I am talking about goes way beyond the usual tent campers down by the bridge this is on a much larger scale, they have a tent down on the riverbank that is more like a pavilion and 5 or 6 vans parked up on the road, surely something that big needs to be addressed by the police.

  44. Frank mckeown says:

    Has anyone noticed what is happening at the bridge on the road to Dunning?. Looks like a gang of campers has taken up residence on the river bank.

    • Axil 1994 says:

      Allways happens frank! I heard the police have been visiting more regularly, I personally don’t mind people camping and having a fire or whatever, But when they leave the place tinky like rubbish and half burnt out tents lying around, that annoys me!

    • Graham says:

      As Axil 1994 has pointed out, camping at Dunning Glen has been going on for years now. The big issue has never been the use of the area for camping but the routine incidents of littering (camp and dump), sanitation and the unfortunately relatively routine incidents of anti-social behaviour.

      See http://www.fossoway.org/gallery:dunning-glen-problems for typical results

      The rights offered to us under the Land Reform Act, and our corresponding obligations, for access to land and water allows wild camping. Unfortunately despite many of these campers ignoring their obligations under the Act and the Scottish Outdoor Access Code [ http://www.outdooraccess-scotland.com/ ] the land owners are powerless to put a stop to the camping. The DAA, landowners, Fossoway Community Council and the then Tayside Police have worked together to try and improve the situation. The DAA have organised clean ups, individuals have routinely cleaned up, Fossoway CC arranged for a professional deep clean by contractors and more recently through Police Scotland the area has been cleaned up by Perth and Kinross Community Payback Team [ http://www.thecourier.co.uk/news/local/perth-kinross/dunning-glen-free-of-litter-thanks-to-clean-up-1.632774 ]. In recent years Police Scotland have made it their business to routinely visit the site (which has lead to some arrests for a variety of offences).

      • Graham says:

        Now I understand Frank’s question!

        On my way home tonight I passed over from Dunning past Dunning Glen. It appears to be a much more organised “event” with a lot of folk in residence!

  45. Kenny says:

    Total fly fisher mag single copy from http://www.newsstand.co.uk/

  46. onroutes says:

    just wondering whats been working at the quay just now. ive got a long weekend off and hoping to get my line wet up there….. 😉

  47. Just recieved a copy of the Reporters decision regarding the CEMEX appeal to allow a quarry in Glenquey. The appeal has been dismissed, in the main on environmental grounds, full details can be found on the DPEA website Case Ref: PPA-340-2094. We will have to wait and see what action CEMEX will take next, but as I understand they have two options:
    First they can appeal to the Court of Session, however this can only be done on a Point of Law and having read it there is not one in the Dismissal Notice.
    Their second option is to make a completely new application, however given that environmental laws, standards etc., have become extremely more difficult to comply with, and that this appeal, itself, has been dismissed mainly on environmental grounds, it will be interesting to see if they go for this option.

  48. Kenny says:

    http://www.atlanticsalmontrust.org Salmon and Sea Trout Recognition and parr

  49. Axil 1994 says:

    Av sent an email to the daa emaill address, my internet has been playing up so if it’s not been recived just let my know! Cheers!

    • Graham says:

      Andrew [Axil 1994] had posted a photo of a young Devon brownie on Facebook which some else had suggested was a salmon smolt, hence the rather cryptic question. As I mention below there have been salmon smolts released in to the River in that area, so there was some obvious concerns. He quickly sent me a picture of the fish, which on first viewing did look suspicious but the giveaway was the length of the maxilla (the bony plate along the back of the jaw, which went beyond the back of the eye) confirming it was a Brown Trout. To be double sure I sent a copy to Dr Jo Girvan the Fisheries Trust biologist who confirmed it was a Brown Trout.

      A false alarm but this kind of vigilance is important on any river. Most of the major pollution incidents on the Devon have been reported by anglers and as anglers we should grateful for that.

      So thanks to Andrew 🙂

  50. Axil 1994 says:

    Evening folks! Does anyone know if the wild salmon reach as far as the salmon hatchery?

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